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PERRIN LOVETT

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Monthly Archives: June 2020

Ria! Ria! HUNGARY!

26 Friday Jun 2020

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Americans, Christianity, Europe, Hungary, rise!, The West

Ria! Ria! HUNGARY!

This is part three in my series on alternative civilized nations for young Americans to consider as the United States continues to disintegrate.

PART I: Poland

PART II: Slovakia

My title derives from Hungary’s 2016 national (football) chant, which does not really translate into any decipherable message – other than to give the chance of shouting the name of a great nation. The ancient royal motto was Regnum Mariae Patrona Hungariae, a tribute to the Catholic heritage of a great people. For a while, the simultaneous cry was Cum Deo pro Patria et Libertate -With the help of God for Homeland and Freedom! If you’re into God, freedom, and I suppose, “Ria,” then keep reading.

The Third Republic of Hungary, a little larger than the US (client) State of South Carolina, is another of the terrific Central Euro nations that are sometimes described as “Eastern.” It’s south of Slovakia, east of Austria, west of Romania, and north of the rump states of the former Yugoslavia. It’s been in the news lately, even in fading Amerika, for very good reasons. 

A noticeable trend continues, there: the clear and coherent nation of ten million is 98% Hungarian with a small admixture of other Slavs, Germans, and a few Roma. As estimated it is at least 60% Christian (40% Roman Catholic). A quarter of those surveyed did not answer and other evidence suggests the Messianic population is considerably higher. (The minor party of the right-wing governing coalition even has “Christian” in its name!) As in Poland, the incompatible are not welcome.

The national IQ average is in-line with that in Poland, with the same upward trajectory as Slovakia. In fact, partly, for some of the reasons below, this trend might be starting to accelerate.

She’s a beauty of a country, home to rolling hills and valleys, replete with both forests and gentle grasslands. Four mountain ranges are present, including the far eastern tip of the Alps. The climate is variable, with warm summers and cold winters – partly governed by geography and elevation, as much as by latitude.

Booming Budapest, the capital and largest city, is home to a metro population of over three million. This metropolis, and most other cities and towns, is a blending of the modern and improving and the traditional, the proud, and the beautiful. By general European standards, the cost of living is low. Taxes are moderate and, as in Poland, the people who pay for the various social services are the same people who reap the benefits of the programs. The house currency is the Forint (300ish = 1 USD), though a possible conversion to the Euro is under consideration.  Hungary is a full member of the EU and a Schengen country.

Hungarian is a different kind of language than Slovak or Polish, but it is learnable. Consult Duolingo or Hungarian101, a Youtube series. 

The Parliament is controlled by the combined forces of (majority) Fidesz, the Hungarian Civic Alliance, and the Christian! Democratic People’s Party (a minority splintering of Fidesz). Together, they hold a narrow … super-majority of the 199 seats. They are also regularly joined by other center-right, pro-Hungarian parties. Viktor Orbán “The Man!” is Prime Minister and leader of Fidesz.

Orbán, a man of the kind America needed when it still counted, is the architect of Hungary’s successful stand against the powers of homoglobo. Soros and Co. called, as usual, for third-world immigrants to “fix” the Hungarian economy and society. However, Orbán became possessed of the insane idea that somehow, magically perhaps, it was possible to birth new native Hungarians. In 2019, Parliament enacted his plan via the … Child Tax Credit!!!

Yes, young people, buy into this graduated plan and see your population (magically) increase while your tax burden declines. If a happily married couple (magically) produces four or more future citizens, then they PAY NO TAXES! It’s brand new, but I can predict where this will go: First, there will be a baby boom, silencing the globos with vigorous native blood. Second, place your bets, tax revenues will, particularly in the long-run, rise. A win, win, win.

We know this is a winning scheme because of the way the enemy’s lapdog media spins it – as a move of “desperation.” By their words, we know who is really desperate. And, in Hungary, the enemy has great cause to worry. It’s another nation where the true and the beautiful is celebrated, expected, and enforced, and where the values of Amerika – sodomy, abortion, obesity, usury, and death – are frowned upon, ridiculed, and forbidden.

Again, your ticket for admission to this branch of real civilization is either employment or education-related. Your task is to research the specifics and logistics. Start Page and the Duck! Soon, very soon, I will revisit Poland, where I have uncovered nearly unbelievable programs designed to help both the nation and (certain) young internationals, like YOU! You will not want to miss that, along with some of the extended cultural information I’ve found. 

I’m doing all of this for you, the future of the West. For your part, those who take the plunge, again, please send me a postcard!

*Should this article be republished elsewhere where my prior general permission has been obtained, I insist that it be disclosed in full or not at all.

** Next up, it’s back to Poland! Staggering good news. Then, on to Romania, the Czech Republic, and/or elsewhere!

Get Started, Mr. President

25 Thursday Jun 2020

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invasion, Supreme Court, Trump

Use this Supreme Court ruling – which is surprising considering the late trend – to start cleaning the house.

The U.S. Supreme Court handed the Trump administration a major victory Thursday, ruling that those who enter the United States seeking asylum from persecution elsewhere have no right to a federal court hearing.

The decision, on a 7-to-2 vote, allows the Trump administration to fast-track the deportation of thousands of immigrants who have claimed to be escaping from persecution and torture in their home countries.

Make my alternative nation recommendations for the kids obsolete. This is more important that rallies, slippery ramps, and boasting. Again, this must only be the start. Help us forget forever the “unsung hero” of 1965.

Fruits of the “Unsung Hero”

25 Thursday Jun 2020

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Americans, census, changes, decline, demographics, Emanuel Celler

No changes, whatsoever!

For the generation of Americans not yet old enough to drive, the demographic future has arrived.

For the first time, nonwhites and Hispanics were a majority of people under age 16 in 2019, an expected demographic shift that will grow over the coming decades, according to figures released by the U.S. Census Bureau on Thursday.

“We are browning from bottom up in our age structure,” said William Frey, a senior fellow at The Brookings Institution. “This is going to be a diversified century for the United States, and it’s beginning with this youngest generation.”

This is fantastic news! But, we’d better get those reparations paid sooner than later or else, you know…

Thank you, Unsung Hero!

Representative Emanuel Celler (D-NY, 1888-1981) was the longest-serving Congressman from New York (1924-1965). During his first term in the House, Celler was present when Congress completed legislating the highly restrictive “national origins” system limiting immigration to the United States to under 400,000 a year based on country of origin. The goal of the legislation was to keep America an Anglo-Saxon country. Celler spent the next 40 years seeking to overturn the Johnson Acts and finally did so in 1965 as a co-sponsor of the Hart-Celler Act.

He finally did so! The (positive!) results are showing up, belatedly.

I’m not sure if there’s a statue of the Great Hero anywhere in this dying country. If not, we need to build one quickly so the mob can tear it down and behead it. (Celler’s 1965 Act was not that LGBTP friendly – especially to the “Ps.” And, he was (finally!) cast from office for not being sufficiently feministic.

The start of the now torturous venture of deciphering the census numbers, HERE. Previously, in the last century, this information was kept in bound form in libraries, copious but straightforward. Around 2000, when the interwebs hit their useful stride, it was available in an easy to use format online. Now … dig. It’s a done deal; there’s no reason to try and hide it anymore.

I Said, Sherman Next

24 Wednesday Jun 2020

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"Civil" War, diversity, haha, War

Anything even vaguely representative of civilization is being targeted. The savages in this hilarious story are the kind of trash that I mentioned they do not allow in Poland or Slovakia. In those sane nations, in the event that something slips and there is an emergency, they have these funny but effective things called bullets.

Is there a NASCAR statue we could direct these cretins towards?

Eight Years of the Old Blog. Wow.

24 Wednesday Jun 2020

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2012-2020, 8th Anniversary, blog, blog history, perrinlovett.me

Hello and welcome to our eighth anniversary here at this highly respected web log. The obligatory linking of the original post:

Screenshot 2020-05-15 at 7.04.13 PM

Yes, I was so proud that I did one more entry and then took eight months off, followed by two years of intermittent attention. The stride was found and hit hard in 2015. But, it did develop eventually.

This year has been a little … what’s the word? A little slow. Then again, this is the year that America went utterly insane, right? It’s funny, but January and February (especially January) were strong. Then, the bottom fell out, reaching a low in April and May. With other projects working to one degree or another, with other plans floating around, and with the fiction calling louder every day, there came a brief moment when I considered halting new posts and possibly even scraping the whole thing. But…

I’m still kind of proud of this little corner of the web. Things continue to develop. And, I foresee yet more to come. My outside columns will continue and hopefully I’ll have some major news about that part later in the summer!

Thanks for being along for the ride. More mad ravings dead ahead.

-Perrin

Jeśli potrafisz przeczytać to zdanie i jesteś w ojczyźnie, czy jest możliwy azyl polityczny? Blog w zestawie?

The Hoax Strikes Back?

23 Tuesday Jun 2020

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escape, EU, Europe, travel

Uh-oh. If you’ve been following my tour of central and eastern Europe, and you’d like to escape before they start hunting you for sport, then I’d recommend doing so immediately. Otherwise, you may have to wait.

European Union countries rushing to revive their economies and reopen their borders after months of coronavirus restrictions are prepared to block Americans from entering because the United States has failed to control the scourge, according to draft lists of acceptable travelers seen by The New York Times.

The most dangerous (and inconvenient) chest cold in history. I assume this only applies to Americans and that “women and children” “refugees” “fleeing war and oppression” and “coming to strengthen the EU” will still be welcome in France, Germany, England, and Sweden with open checkbooks and bared throats.

PS: The great tour will continue, travel ban or no, right here, maybe as soon as later this week. Next stop: Hungary!

The Slovakian Option

23 Tuesday Jun 2020

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civilization, escape, Slovakia, The West, TPC, War

A Faithful Idea Prevails: Move To SLOVAKIA

Moving right along, with the civilized and functioning alternative nations for young Americans to consider, we reach the Slovak Republic.

PART I: Poland

Imagine a second Switzerland, or rather, think of it as a third Switzerland, after the second, Austria – one to the east of, to the east of… Go on, consult the atlas. Slovakia is smaller than Poland, being approximately the size of the Confoederatio Helvetica (West Virginia-sized). It is an impressive mountain range (the Tatras) bounded on the south by the fertile plains of the Danube river valley. This astounding country has been separate from the Czech Republic since 1993 and the Velvet Divorce, a rare, amicable, and profitable parting of cousins.

More importantly, it is, like Poland in the north, a nation with a distinct and proud people. Eighty percent of the population is comprised of ethnic Slovaks. The rest are predominately other, closely-related Slavs from neighboring countries. Hungary (which we will get to soon!) is heavily represented. There is a decent smattering of Poles, Czechs, Germans, Russians, and other Euros mixed in. Like the Poles, Slovaks steadfastly refuse to admit third-world problems.

As in Poland, a majority of Slovakian people (two-thirds) are Roman Catholic. A large part of the remainder is comprised of other Catholics (C-Town: there are twenty-six kinds of liturgical “Catholics”) and Protestants. Unlike in Amerika, there is no downward spiral in Faith.

I don’t necessarily like the national intelligence data I found, though as-is, the average Slovak IQ is at least a third of an SD higher than that in Amerika. I strongly suspect that, like their neighbors, the Slovaks are experiencing a localized, latter-day Flynn Effect, with mental abilities increasing. This has certainly been the case for the past generation, or since the end of communism in 1989. I imagine the good trend will continue, even as Amerika dips under the “Dutton-Woodley” Effect, falling on average .4 points per year. If these trends do continue, then Slovakia will probably max out in another generation, on par with pre-diversity Germany or with current-era Japan. America – at the current rate of decrease – is a mere fifteen years away from parity with the world average, 86, at the border of “dullness,” and only seven to eight years away from sinking below the average needed (90) to generally guarantee societal stability. Yes, MB, 2033 now looks a little too optimistic (tick, tick, tick). But, that’s not for us to worry about.

Slovakia is a dream-like land of pleasantry and cleanliness, of mixed modernity and convenience with ancient bucolic charm. Here are a couple of assignments for you, the young intrepid traveler: On Startpage or the Duck, take a picture tour. Start with “high Tatras Slovakia” and see what you get. Then – and this is really fun and informative – from Startpage, use the Anonymous View of Google Maps and take a Street View “drive” across the nation. Start in the capital, Bratislava, and go out the E58 to Nitra. From there, continue on to Zvolen. Turn north on the E77 and proceed to lovely Banská Bystrica. This, readers will recognize, was Tom Ironsides’s adopted hometown while he was teaching in-country. From BB head east to Poprad and Kezmarok (Käsmark), high in the very ski-able mountains. Poland is around the northern corner.

Along this route or any other you choose, you will kindly observe a few things. First, all of the roads are in excellent shape. The highways are ultra-modern extensions of the Autobahns and Motorways of the Western countries (Austria, Germany, France, etc). Notice the lack of copious road signs; unlike shit stupid Amerikans, the Slovaks do not need constant reminding about their speeds, seatbelts, curves, and other matters that good drivers take for granted. Notice also the lack of older or broken-down vehicles. The streets are free of litter not because of the laws or civic group efforts but because of the pride and civility of the people. In the towns, with their faces blurred out, the native people are occasionally on display. There is something familiar and similar to all of them. Compare all of this to any road near you in the corroding Empire.

Indulge a couple of videos.

Poprad approached from the air:

(The High Tatras around Poprad. No visible demographics to censor!)

By road:

(Roadtrip from Poland to Slovakia)

Okay, I’d better level with you for a second, using Poprad as an example. [Sigh…] This “up and coming” place may not have all the luxuries you, the American, expect. While they have a Mercedes-Benz sales office in the mall, you have to go a few blocks down the street to the main dealership for service. I know, right? Cool fact, number one: that same street with the dealer and the mall, along with the parallel superhighway, runs right by twelfth-century Spis Castle, half an hour to the east. Cool fact, number two: even SUBSTITUTE readers don’t know this, but Dr. Ironsides leased a Benz SUV at this very mall.

Lest I forget to add this elsewhere: BEER!

Since 1993, Slovakia has been steadily rising across all measurable, positive categories. If you want modern, then it’s there – malls, hi-rises, highways, airports, wi-fi, et cetera. It all comes with a wonderful ancient historical twist. Cruising down the highway at 81 MPH (130 KPH), in a long mountain valley between idyllic villages, you might pass the grandeur of castles like Spis, or one of the other plentiful reminders of the past. And, everywhere, one finds the unadulterated beauty of nature. Rolling, green fields. Forests, home to deer, wolves, and bears. Snow-capped peaks both concealing of and mirrored in glass-clear lakes. OFF THE ORBITZ! I have more…

When you poke around for information, beware that most tourism sites, even the best, inherently steer the adventurer towards Bratislava. This is much the same way that France = Paris, England = London, and Amerika = New York. It’s a fine city and the largest, but it’s not the only one. You’ll no doubt figure out where to start and what to see.

Know the Motto! I love these. Here are three:

  • Veritas Vincit – “Truth Prevails,” Official, 1918 – 1993, minus WWII;

  • Verní sebe, svorne napred! – “Faithful to Ourselves, Together Ahead,” Official, WWII;

  • Dobrý nápad, Slovensko! – “Good idea, Slovakia!” – Unofficial business promotion, 2016 – .

The promotion has worked, as the country is home to numerous booming industries, especially automotive manufacturing and technology. Again, you’ll need a reason to be there. Employment is where you look for it. From Zilina to Kosice, they hire English speakers as English teachers – though they expect the teacher to have a rudimentary understanding of Slovak. Higher education really is both in Slovakia and is another real entry possibility. Startpage or Duck all of that.

Ahoj a dobrý deň! You’ll need to know the language, which is somewhat similar to Polish and Czech. Alas, Duo and Babbel do not yet offer Slovak. So, try the following: Slovak from the EU, and; Radio Slovakia International, offering at least ten easy video lessons, along with general cultural discussion. While you’re at it and coming up to speed, consult the Slovak Spectator, an English newspaper.

Currency-wise, until a decade ago, the Slovaks relied on their own native Koruna. Now it’s the Euro all the way. And, there, it goes a long way. Slovakia has some of the lowest taxes in Europe and a lower than average cost of living – with an improving individual/family purchasing power. As with any move, it will take some getting used to. But, as I said last week, there’s nothing holding you back!

A few related matters:

A correction? I refer to Poland as an “Eastern” Euro nation, and it arguably is. However, they consider themselves “Central,” which arguably they are. They’re also, by the map, Northern. Potato, ziemniak.

A Caveat: I’ve been tossing around these ideas like we still live in a partially sane world. Sorry. There are still a few transatlantic flights at present, with more scheduled for the coming months. France and a few other countries may institute quarantine rules for foreign arrivals or other impediments. This too shall pass, this too shall pass. In the meanwhile, check with your airline of choice, the CDC, or the EU/country of arrival. What’s that? Afraid to fly? Love flying, just not commercial (that’s me)? Then, I have an alternative idea for getting across, rather than over, the pond – it takes a little longer, but it’s cheaper than flying and is its own mini vacation. More on that later, before the ship sails, with you, the cargo (hint, hint) aboard.

Immediately after I finished my draft of last week’s exposé on Poland, the news broke of the calamitous but utterly predictable collapse of “conservative” principles in the worthless, enemy combatant Supreme Court. Tis to yawn, but it helps make my point about leaving. And, about the same time that I submitted the Polish column, old MB posted his primary election tally and analysis, complete with the question: “Is the GOP in the Home County Doomed?” Allow me to answer that: YES! Here’s an alliteration(!) for C-town: Demographics Determine Destiny. (Que Slipping Away by Dave Edmunds).

Back to last week and Poland, many of those “rights” that Roberts and his idiotic, black-robed cucks suddenly invented out of whole cloth, are crimes in Poland. Amerikans are an increasingly stupid, ignorant, mentally-ill band of weak, deluded fools, lacking the ability to grasp reality. There’s this idea that Europe is somehow lost. The truth is, of course, the polar opposite. The worst of the Old Continent – France, England, Germany, the Netherlands, and Sweden – are still, at a minimum, 90% or more French, English, German, Dutch, and Swedish. And, the natives are getting restless. Europe, rest assured, will remain Europe. Period.

There will be war in the US and it will probably be protracted and brutal. This is the price of over a hundred years of cowardice and distraction. The result is impossible to determine, though nothing will be the same. The most likely outcome, after much death and suffering, will be balkanization. That is our happy cross to bear, even those of us who spent our adult lifetimes trying to avert disaster. The young need not suffer through the end of our mistakes. Thus, I offer these escape-route recommendations.

Kids, with the exceptions of a few larger urban areas, almost all of Europe is a better option than where you are now and certainly better than where you’ll be in a decade. I started with Poland for a reason – internal harmony. Here, a few more caveats: Unless you are ethnically Polish or unless you have a direct Polish lineage, it will be somewhat difficult to establish yourself there – as is the case in most of the countries we’ll look into. However, it’s not impossible. After personal compatibility with the nation – and they generally reject incompatible applicants out of hand – the reason to be there is the foremost concern. The two best routes are employment and education. If you just want to move in sans specific purpose, and assuming they even let you apply, then you’ll have to bring plentiful documentation about yourself, health insurance, and sufficient financial resources. Don’t let that necessarily trouble you as you can and should find a reason to fit in – university study suggests itself as an ideal cause.

Not to harp on Poland, but I did even more digging. The dollar goes a long way with things like hotel rooms, houses, and menu items. Even before you launch an exploratory foray, take a Google Maps (via SP or the Duck) vaca. I examined Krakow and was overwhelmed with the local culture. And, that’s me, the recluse, impressed with a sizable city. You can and will find your place!

For the trolls, mid-wits, and assorted people determined not to get it: yes, I’m concentrating on the young folks of my people, Westerners. After I wrap up this series, I’m going to address those of us who will remain amidst the fires. We have options and responsibilities. The great news is that what eventually comes will be much better. As for the other peoples of goodwill, I’ll get this out of the way right now.

For the rest who DO NOT wish to participate in the mess they’re helped create in the US:

  • Post-1965 newcomers: You know where you came from; go back.

  • Jews: Sorry, no China. Heed the call of Aliyah before the offer is rescinded.

  • Blacks: Marcus Garvey is in the news lately. If I was an eighteen-year-old black man, my choices would be, probably in this order: Tanzania, Ghana, Zambia, Kenya.

  • Indians: Hold tight; you may have the chance to expand the reservations and/or reclaim former territories. Who knows?

Not that it’s my business, but I sincerely hope those points can help someone. Heck, I hope all of this series helps somebody. If it does, please send me a postcard!

*Column also appeared, in shortened form, at TPC.

On the Importance of Thinking

22 Monday Jun 2020

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Dialectic, education, evil, lies, Rhetoric, schools, Vox Day

The hellish and failed public schools sometimes spout drivel about the importance of teaching critical thinking skills. They never deliver and, in fact, move hell and earth to prevent intelligent discourse. Vox Day and a reader have articulated (very well) why that is: a passage from The Ethics of Rhetoric by Richard Weaver:

Examples of this kind of contrivance occur on every hand in the impassioned language of journalism and political pleading. In the world of affairs which these seek to influence, the many are kept in a state of pupillage so that they will be most docile to their “lovers.” The techniques of the base lover, especially as exemplified in modern journalism, would make a long catalogue, but in general it is accurate to say that he seeks to keep the understanding in a passive state by never permitting an honest examination of the alternatives. Nothing is more feared by him than a true dialectic, for this not only endangers his favored alternative, but also gives the “beloved”…some training in intellectual independence.

What he does therefore is dress up one alternative in all the cheap finery of immediate hopes and fears, knowing that if he can thus prevent a masculine exercise of imagination and will he can have his way. By discussing only one side of an issue, by mentioning cause without consequence or consequence without cause, acts without agents or agents without agency, he often successfully blocks definition and cause-and-effect reasoning. In this way his choices are arrayed in such meretricious images that one can quickly infer the juvenile mind which they would attract. Of course the base rhetorician today, with his vastly augmented power of propagation, has means of deluding which no ancient rhetor in forum or marketplace could have imagined.

Reading the subtext closely, one finds that Weaver is describing mental rape, in the case of the schools, of children. Vox is dead-on accurate when he says a competent mind must be trained in both rhetoric and dialectic so that one may see and defeat the lies. No government administrator wants and most teachers do not want that as they see it as both an affront to their precious authority over the “beloveds” and a direct challenge to the narrative their masters have scripted for them to deliver.

How does it work in practice? An example: A likely CIA front company runs a reading tutorial program that practically ensures reading is not learned. It is geared towards middle and high school students. One of their recent lessons was on the great sodomite hero Harvey Milk. That’s how the demon-possessed freak is presented – as a hero. They end with Milk’s execution, a grand tragedy as they see it. They expect the kids to go along. This sort of evil is pushed at all levels, including the elementary. What they purposefully omit is that Milk was a child rapist and that many of his victims went on to become child rapists or commit suicide or to do both. A discerning mind might rebel and ask questions, which would defeat the point of the indoctrination.

This is also the reason why it has become next to impossible to carry on a conversation with the average person. Beyond their declining innate mental faculties, they are untrained in the art of thinking.

It’s not “homeschool or die,” it’s homeschool or watch civilization die.

Hold Your Breath

22 Monday Jun 2020

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abortion, decline, law, Louisiana, murder, Supreme Court

Roberts and his valiant conservative cucks are sure to do the right thing in re the Louisiana abortion case. There’s no point in pasting any content from the story or the case as the outcome is a guaranteed as an illegal invader sanctuary in San Fran. Evil nation, evil laws.

Now Do Sherman!

21 Sunday Jun 2020

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The funniest story of the year!

Protesters in San Francisco on Friday toppled the statue of former President Grant, who led the Union Army during the Civil War, in Golden Gate Park.

San Francisco police said that approximately 400 people gathered around 8 p.m. to take down the statue, though no arrests were made, according to NBC Bay Area.

Also torn down in the park on Friday were the statues of St. Junipero Serra and Francis Scott Key, who wrote the lyrics to “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

Go, heathens, go! Here are a few recommendations for the next “justice” interventions: Bill Sherman, Dishonest Abe, FDR, LBJ, Celler. Lemme know when those are down and I’ll have more!

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